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Title: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Charlie on July 08, 2010, 12:26:03 pm
We all have a list of these.  Who are yours?  Here's mine.

David Bowie
Peter Gabriel (solo)
Joni Mitchell
The Police
Nirvana


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Perplexio on July 08, 2010, 01:12:15 pm
We all have a list of these.  Who are yours?  Here's mine.

David Bowie
Peter Gabriel (solo)
Joni Mitchell
The Police
Nirvana

While I don't care for nor do I listen to most of the ones on your list, I wouldn't really say I hate any of them-- it's such a strong word.  

Bowie, I used to consider to be a bit overrated but after hearing some of his less popular/less famous material for the first time a couple of years ago I've given him another chance.  Life on Mars in particular is an excellent song... and it was good enough to give me cause to re-evaluate my initial dismissiveness of Bowie as being overrated.  

I like some of Peter Gabriel's solo material but I also find much of it to be a bit pretentious and overblown.  And while I'm a fan of Genesis, one of my least favorite albums by them is the 2CD Lamb Lies Down on Broadway as I find it to be an exercise of musical excess.  While prog-rock is traditionally known for such excesses, the rest of the band had kind of kept Gabriel in check up to that point.  And even after he left they put out a couple of really strong studio albums (A Trick of the Tail and Wind & Wuthering) showing that the tendency toward excessive self indulgence was largely due to his influence on the band.

I don't listen to Joni Mitchell and never really have thus I don't have enough knowledge of or experience with her music to really justify a strong opinion for or against her.

The Police put out some solid singles in the 80s.  But my interest with them is limited to their hit singles and maybe some of the deeper album cuts on Synchronicity.

I don't like Nirvana, never have, likely never will.  BUT I respect that they had a tremendous impact on the music of my generation and that their music had a strong impact in the lives of many of my peers... I just wasn't one of the Gen X'ers whose life was affected/touched by Nirvana.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: CelticGal on July 08, 2010, 06:53:27 pm
We all have a list of these.  Who are yours?  Here's mine.

David Bowie
Peter Gabriel (solo)
Joni Mitchell
The Police
Nirvana

A good and interesting topic. Here are mine:

Cyndi Lauper. I could never stand her too-quirky voice, and she looked ridiculous. I always knew Madonna would last longer.

Cheap Trick. They just never appealed to me.

Talking Heads. I respect their place in music history, but I've never heard a Talking Heads song I wanted to hear again.

Eurythmics. Unlike Cyndi Lauper, Annie Lennox has a great voice, but Dave Stewart's keyboard arrangements leave me cold.

Dave Matthews Band. I never really bought into their aesthetic, and I think he has a whiny voice, but my main problem with them is that they dumped the waste of their bus into the Chicago River.

Finally, while I wouldn't say I hate either one, and I highly respect both as songwriters, I don't really enjoy listening to either Bob Dylan or Bruce Springsteen.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: playguitar7 on July 09, 2010, 02:23:59 am
I love this ?uestion. 

Radiohead (not all... just... most)
Wilco (as above... just don't get the hype)

There are more I'm sure, but that'll do for now.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Hourman on July 09, 2010, 11:32:15 am
I like some Bowie, but some I can't stand... the same with Springsteen -love "Glory Days", despise the screaming of "Born In The USA"

Talking Heads: I only like "Burning Down The House"... no idea why.

Eurythmics: Much of their music is blah... I agree, Annie Lennox has a fantasic voice, though. Best song? "What I Lie To You?" Great 60s vibe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhpu2N4rQZM

Nirvanna and the Dave Matthews Band -I NEVER got either of them... their music totally disinterests me.

Here's another band whom I find wretched, yet it has a fair amount of fans: Coldplay


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Perplexio on July 09, 2010, 11:52:26 am
Well rather than just respond to others that have been posted on here-- (although I have to agree about Dave Matthews Band, I just don't get all of the fuss).  Here are the artists that I just don't care for but have large followings or are quite popular with the critics and/or have large followings:

Bruce Springsteen - other than some of his hits like Born to Run and Glory Days I just don't get the appeal.
U2 - I dig The Joshua Tree and the song Numb but other than that I just don't get all the fuss.
The Rolling Stones - I own Beggars Banquet on CD, that's it.  I've tried listening to some of their other stuff but it bores me.  Friends have tried to get me into their music but I just don't feel it at all.
Blondie - I LOATHE Rapture and only find Heart of Glass and The Tide Is High to be marginally tolerable and only in very small doses.
Radiohead - I've tried to get into them but they fall flat with me.
Rage Against the Machine - see Radiohead... similar sentiments



Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Packercracker on July 09, 2010, 06:43:33 pm
I agree that Hate is a strong word, so suffice it to say the following people/songs make me want to go find my old rusty nail and drive it into my eardrums:

everything Wilson Phillips has ever done
everything John Denver has ever done
that "You're Beautiful" by that whiny screech owl on ludes, whatever his name is
"Butterfly Kisses"


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: YourZ on July 10, 2010, 10:54:35 pm
Music taste is really subjective, isn't it?  I really like Bowie, Gabriel, The Police and Nirvana but don't care at all for Joni Mitchell

My list is as follows:

John Mayer (why, oh, why?)
Dave Matthews (obviously I'm not alone with this either)
Oasis (those brothers are egotistical thugs, nothing more)
Coldplay

The big one and I'm sure it is going to get some reaction, is Bob Dylan.  I acknowledge he is a genius songwriter but I have never liked him as a performer.  Same goes for Leonard Cohen.

YourZ


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Perplexio on July 11, 2010, 11:09:01 am
Music taste is really subjective, isn't it?  I really like Bowie, Gabriel, The Police and Nirvana but don't care at all for Joni Mitchell

My list is as follows:

John Mayer (why, oh, why?)
Dave Matthews (obviously I'm not alone with this either)
Oasis (those brothers are egotistical thugs, nothing more)
Coldplay

The big one and I'm sure it is going to get some reaction, is Bob Dylan.  I acknowledge he is a genius songwriter but I have never liked him as a performer.  Same goes for Leonard Cohen.

YourZ

With Mayer, I think he's a decent guitarist but his voice grates on my nerves and I find much of what he chooses to sing to be saccharine drivel. 

Couldn't agree more on Oasis!  And as you already saw we're definitely in agreement on DMB.

Coldplay I have mixed feelings about.  They have a small handful of songs I really enjoy but the rest of their material seems to have a generic sameness to it that is somewhat coma-inducing.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: whiteray on July 11, 2010, 09:11:26 pm
Three older ones that come immediately to mind:

B-52s
Talking Heads
Cars

Never got 'em, likely never will.



Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Charlie on July 11, 2010, 09:25:00 pm
I add The Counting Crows to my list.  I can't stand Adam Durwitz's voice.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: KATH on July 12, 2010, 01:45:07 pm
...Gotta agree with a BUNCH of those!!  There's some on there I'm just like, YOU'RE KIDDING, RIGHT? (Springsteen and Nirvana...wow.  NO comment.) And, some people should REALLY just shut up and not sing EVER and just write amazing songs...Case in point, Bob Dylan.  Love his MUSIC...CAN'T STAND HIS VOICE. WhoTF told him he could sing?...Beethoven?? 

"Would I lie to You" had a WICKED HORN LINE.  Maybe that's why SOME of us gravitated to it, I'd bet. ;)  I prefer Annie Lennox Solo.  And, it's not like ANYONE ELSE besides Dave Stewart could've filled the bill on that gig--Annie Lennox was the draw.  Her voice is awesome.  He might've wrote some, or ALL for what I remember about Eurythmics, but I didn't NOT LIKE 'EM...I just had a few songs I liked, (hooray for 45's!!), and heard the albums--just never liked 'em ENOUGH to get the ALBUMS...with alot of other bands.  And I TOTALLY GET THE STONES...the only song I liked until I was about 26 was "Satisfaction"...and then all of a sudden, BLAM! "Paint it Black" was used on TOUR OF DUTY (remember that TV show? heh.)...and I couldn't get ENOUGH of their old stuff...and then, their newer stuff...then I saw 'em live tow or three times, and now, It's only rock and roll...but I like it.  heh. 

But then, there's like THE COUPLE SONG LOVERS...those band(s) or artist(s) that has three of four songs, tops--that you LOVE...but hate the rest?? (TED NUGENT or MOODY BLUES, ANYBODY? heh.)  Other than Cat Scratch Fever, Stranglehold, and Knights In White Satin,  WHO CARES??  I got a HUGE LIST of those songs/bands.  heh. 

Okay, here's a few that screamed at me to list them...heh.

Mariah Carey
Garth Brooks
Barenaked Ladies
Michael Bolton
The Cranberries
Elvis Presley (he might be able to be thrown on the list with Ted and Moody Blues...)
The Who (ditto...)
10,000 Maniacs
Eminem
Taylor Swift
Kraftwerk
Twisted Sister
Neil Diamond

And, last but not least...those bands that I LOVED BITD...and then at one point...I was like WTF HAPPENED to these pompous assholes??? 

U2 (up to, but not including JOSHUA TREE)
R.E.M. (up to, but not including FABLES OF THE RECONSTRUCTION)


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Perplexio on July 12, 2010, 02:03:34 pm
But then, there's like THE COUPLE SONG LOVERS...those band(s) or artist(s) that has three of four songs, tops--that you LOVE...but hate the rest?? (TED NUGENT or MOODY BLUES, ANYBODY? heh.)  Other than Cat Scratch Fever, Stranglehold,

What, not a fan of Free For All or his "love song", Wang Dang Sweet Poontang!? ;)


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: KATH on July 12, 2010, 02:42:30 pm
But then, there's like THE COUPLE SONG LOVERS...those band(s) or artist(s) that has three of four songs, tops--that you LOVE...but hate the rest?? (TED NUGENT or MOODY BLUES, ANYBODY? heh.)  Other than Cat Scratch Fever, Stranglehold,

What, not a fan of Free For All or his "love song", Wang Dang Sweet Poontang!? ;)

...SUNG BY A MAN IN A LOINCLOTH with a RACOON TAIL?  oh **** no.  WHAT a PIG.

(edit in) ...Damn Yankees?? HELLYEAH.   


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Perplexio on July 12, 2010, 02:53:42 pm
...SUNG BY A MAN IN A LOINCLOTH with a RACOON TAIL?  oh **** no.  WHAT a PIG.
 

But that is SOOO rock and roll!  and SOOO trademark Nuge.  I may not be crazy about all of his music, but I dig the Teddly Bear embracing rock and roll and putting his own personal stamp on it in such an overt fashion!


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: CelticGal on July 12, 2010, 03:44:33 pm
But then, there's like THE COUPLE SONG LOVERS...those band(s) or artist(s) that has three of four songs, tops--that you LOVE...but hate the rest?? (TED NUGENT or MOODY BLUES, ANYBODY? heh.)  Other than Cat Scratch Fever, Stranglehold,

What, not a fan of Free For All or his "love song", Wang Dang Sweet Poontang!? ;)

I'm embarassed to admit that I love Ted Nugent's song "Wango Tango." (Sounds like another thread topic - songs you love but are embarassed to admit it.)

BTW, I've met very few people over about age 40 who like Mariah Carey.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: KATH on July 12, 2010, 03:45:59 pm
...yeah, and I'll take Alice Cooper--You can have Deadly Tedly.  LOL!!


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: KATH on July 12, 2010, 03:49:38 pm
...and that's cool.  I liked Weekend Warrior better.  heh. SEE?  Is it regional Bias?  Isn't it YOU who doesn't like STYX??  I'll trade ya.  LOL!!

oh...and I have to say this...but the one, the only, ANN ARBOR'S VERY OWN...Bob Seger.  (how did I EVER FORGET THAT?)


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Perplexio on July 12, 2010, 03:58:41 pm
...and that's cool.  I liked Weekend Warrior better.  heh. SEE?  Is it regional Bias?  Isn't it YOU who doesn't like STYX??  I'll trade ya.  LOL!!

I like some Styx but I refuse to go see the band that's currently touring under that moniker.  No Dennis DeYoung no Styx as far as I'm concerned.  The band currently touring as Styx is actually "The James Young with ocassional special guest Tommy Shaw Band"... and Tommy Shaw wasn't even an original member!  He replaced John Curliewski.

I also much prefer their 70s material over their 80s... basically everything before Kilroy Was Here... And even that I liked initially.  I think I just got over-saturated with that album as I grew older (not to mention my tastes have changed).

In the mid-90s Tommy Shaw and Jack Blades (of Night Ranger) put out an album together, Hallucination after Damn Yankees split up.  That album was/is actually pretty solid and I prefer it to the 2 Damn Yankees albums which despite the all-star line-up were a bit too over-produced for my tastes.  They were good when they first came out but their music has not aged well at all.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: CelticGal on July 12, 2010, 05:22:27 pm
...and that's cool.  I liked Weekend Warrior better.  heh. SEE?  Is it regional Bias?  Isn't it YOU who doesn't like STYX??  I'll trade ya.  LOL!!

oh...and I have to say this...but the one, the only, ANN ARBOR'S VERY OWN...Bob Seger.  (how did I EVER FORGET THAT?)

I do like Styx, but like Darrin and almost everyone else, I get off the bus with Kilroy Was Here. Plus I agree: No Dennis, no Styx.

I also like Bob Seger, even though he's from the home of That School Up North. (Yes, it's almost football season.) Now that I'm in my 40s I appreciate his songs about remembering his childhood much better.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Hourman on July 12, 2010, 08:05:42 pm
I like Styx as well... and no Dennis, no Styx.

I even like this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMSaA9ZJVvw


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Saxman on July 13, 2010, 11:03:45 am
A few that come to mind (and I don't hate them, I just don't get all the love):

Rock/Pop

Led Zeppelin

Lynard Skynard

Joe Walsh solo - can't stand his singing voice

Jimmy Buffet

The Police (lotsa filler on their albums; is it me or is Sting's voice MEGA whiny on some of those high tenor vocals he used to do?)

Talking Heads: ok, i have to pull out the hate word for David Byrne's voice.  I HATE it.  Trying to sound insane and semi off-key all the time is not hip.

The Rolling Stones -  I just don't like Jagger's voice: this is never going to change.  My wife feels the same way.

The Who - as an album band.  They have a collection of great tunes, but there isn't one album without plenty of filler

Stevie Ray Vaughan -  the fact he died clean and tragically doesn't change the fact he copped everything Hendrix did from his clothes to his playing and Jimi did it all first and better!

John Mayer - his somewhat racist attitude, his goofy "tender" singing voice...BAH!

Mariah Carrey/Whitey Houston/Celine Dion -  the Screaming MacBeth Witches who started the "screaming diva" kick that persists to this day in imitators like Beyonce, who has the most annoying hooks in her songs and manages to marry a former gangbanger like Jay Z, whom Rolling Stone can't stop slobbering over

Lady Gaga -for ripping off Madonna, whom I also don't like (sorry Kath)

Ted Nugent (nuff said)

Rod Stewart -  can't stand his voice, never could

Eric Clapton -  the most overrated performer of all time.  Cream was great, but a long time ago.  WAAYYY lazy unless someone is kicking his butt (see 2005 Cream reunion for good Eric)

Dave Matthews -  not the next Dead, Allmans or Phish.  Self indulgent pot fueled jamming that goes nowhere and he can't play a decent guitar solo to save his life.

Elvis - movie era and post late 1960s comeback.  The stuff with all the backing vocalists and the huge orchestras - C-R-A-P.





Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Perplexio on July 13, 2010, 11:25:26 am
Eric Clapton -  the most overrated performer of all time.  Cream was great, but a long time ago.  WAAYYY lazy unless someone is kicking his butt (see 2005 Cream reunion for good Eric)

What about Blind Faith?  I like some of Clapton's more blues oriented stuff but from his Unplugged album his albums have all been "music to put people into comas to."

I will say that as far as Blues Rock guitarists go, Mike Bloomfield could play circles around Clapton (and when he was alive, he often did just that).

Even though I enjoyed the work that Clapton and Winwood did together in Blind Faith, I thought the work that Al Kooper and Mike Bloomfield did was better. 

The big difference was-- and I'm guessing why Blind Faith is better remembered and often held in higher regard is because Winwood was/is a better singer than Kooper.  But on keys and guitar I'll take Kooper and Bloomfield over Winwood and Clapton any day of the week and twice on Sunday.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Saxman on July 13, 2010, 12:17:33 pm
Eric Clapton -  the most overrated performer of all time.  Cream was great, but a long time ago.  WAAYYY lazy unless someone is kicking his butt (see 2005 Cream reunion for good Eric)

What about Blind Faith?  I like some of Clapton's more blues oriented stuff but from his Unplugged album his albums have all been "music to put people into comas to."

I will say that as far as Blues Rock guitarists go, Mike Bloomfield could play circles around Clapton (and when he was alive, he often did just that).

Even though I enjoyed the work that Clapton and Winwood did together in Blind Faith, I thought the work that Al Kooper and Mike Bloomfield did was better. 

The big difference was-- and I'm guessing why Blind Faith is better remembered and often held in higher regard is because Winwood was/is a better singer than Kooper.  But on keys and guitar I'll take Kooper and Bloomfield over Winwood and Clapton any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Blind Faith was OK and so was Derek and the Dominoes, more because of Duane Allman than Clapton in the case of Derek.  Bloomfield was a force of nature who never got his due, in part because of his heroin addiction keeping him off the scene for years at a time.  Kooper is a much better keys player than Winwood, whom I always thought was mega-overrated.  The Clapton/Winwood live album from last year is a super snoozer.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Perplexio on July 13, 2010, 12:28:34 pm
Blind Faith was OK and so was Derek and the Dominoes, more because of Duane Allman than Clapton in the case of Derek.  Bloomfield was a force of nature who never got his due, in part because of his heroin addiction keeping him off the scene for years at a time.  Kooper is a much better keys player than Winwood, whom I always thought was mega-overrated.  The Clapton/Winwood live album from last year is a super snoozer.

With Winwood I tend to think of him as a vocalist first and a keyboard player second.  With Kooper I tend to think of him as a master arranger/musical genius first, a keyboard player second, and a vocalist last.  His vocals are passable and when he sings in his range even enjoyable.  However his range is somewhat limited compared to Winwood. 


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Hourman on July 13, 2010, 01:35:42 pm
A few that come to mind (and I don't hate them, I just don't get all the love):

Rock/Pop

Led Zeppelin

Lynard Skynard

Joe Walsh solo - can't stand his singing voice

Jimmy Buffet

The Police (lotsa filler on their albums; is it me or is Sting's voice MEGA whiny on some of those high tenor vocals he used to do?)

Talking Heads: ok, i have to pull out the hate word for David Byrne's voice.  I HATE it.  Trying to sound insane and semi off-key all the time is not hip.

The Rolling Stones -  I just don't like Jagger's voice: this is never going to change.  My wife feels the same way.

The Who - as an album band.  They have a collection of great tunes, but there isn't one album without plenty of filler

Stevie Ray Vaughan -  the fact he died clean and tragically doesn't change the fact he copped everything Hendrix did from his clothes to his playing and Jimi did it all first and better!

John Mayer - his somewhat racist attitude, his goofy "tender" singing voice...BAH!

Mariah Carrey/Whitey Houston/Celine Dion -  the Screaming MacBeth Witches who started the "screaming diva" kick that persists to this day in imitators like Beyonce, who has the most annoying hooks in her songs and manages to marry a former gangbanger like Jay Z, whom Rolling Stone can't stop slobbering over

Lady Gaga -for ripping off Madonna, whom I also don't like (sorry Kath)

Ted Nugent (nuff said)

Rod Stewart -  can't stand his voice, never could

Eric Clapton -  the most overrated performer of all time.  Cream was great, but a long time ago.  WAAYYY lazy unless someone is kicking his butt (see 2005 Cream reunion for good Eric)

Dave Matthews -  not the next Dead, Allmans or Phish.  Self indulgent pot fueled jamming that goes nowhere and he can't play a decent guitar solo to save his life.

Elvis - movie era and post late 1960s comeback.  The stuff with all the backing vocalists and the huge orchestras - C-R-A-P.





O.K., you hit four of my favs, Saxman!

SRV, Skynyrd, Buffett and Joe Walsh/James Gang... we've already discussed Zeppelin, and classic rock stations have destroyed Zeppelin via overplay.

Stevie Ray... yeah, Hendrix did it first, but Vaughn kept doing it, until his own untimely death. His first clean album, "In Step" is a classic. Not a fan of his brother, Jimmy

Skynryd: the wall of guitars sound and country themes are what appeals to me.

Buffett: Yeah, most of his stuff is pretty inane, but I like the beach and the water so yeah, I have an inner parrothead.

Joe Walsh: either one loves or hates him... his nasal voice is annoying, but "Walk Away" is one of my all time favorite songs.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Saxman on July 13, 2010, 03:33:48 pm
Hourman: sorry, dude, no offense meant.  That's one reason I've never worked out in rock cover bands - Zeppelin and Skynard inevitably come up and i don't want to play them.  I'm actually more of a jazz fusion/R&B guy.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Perplexio on July 13, 2010, 03:46:54 pm
Hourman: sorry, dude, no offense meant.  That's one reason I've never worked out in rock cover bands - Zeppelin and Skynard inevitably come up and i don't want to play them.  I'm actually more of a jazz fusion/R&B guy.

The only Skynnyrd song I dig is What's That Smell?  I remember driving through Sandusky, OH on a hot summer night in 2001 and that song was playing on the radio.  There's a limestone quarry right near the main strip in Sandusky (US-250/Milan Rd.) and there's a stench of limestone that hangs in the air.  Some nights its worse than others.  One of my friends a few years before had dubbed it "the Sandusky Stank."  But there was something oh so appropriate about driving through Sandusky with the windows down on a hot summer night with What's that Smell? blasting on my car stereo and the foul stench from the limestone quarry hanging in the hair like a stinky wet blanket.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Hourman on July 13, 2010, 04:24:45 pm
Hourman: sorry, dude, no offense meant.  That's one reason I've never worked out in rock cover bands - Zeppelin and Skynard inevitably come up and i don't want to play them.  I'm actually more of a jazz fusion/R&B guy.

None ever taken...

I like Barry Manilow for God's sake... so you know I have terrible taste :)

The big thing about "That Smell", Darrin, of course, is that the song was released right after the plane crash that killed lead singer Ronnie Van Zant, guitarist/singer Steve Gaines, background vocalist Cassie Gaines, assistant road manager Dean Kilpatrick, pilot Walter McCreary and co-pilot William Gray on impact while the other bandmembers such as bassist Leon Wilkerson suffered serious injuries.

There has been a lot of death surrounding the band, with several surviving originals (Wilkenson and keyboardist Billy Powell) dying over the past decade... and several replacement members dying at very young ages.

For what it's worth, guitarist Gary Rossington is the only pre-crash suriving member still with the band.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Saxman on July 15, 2010, 08:53:14 pm
Wow, people have given me Pink Floyd t-shirts and today I've come to the conclusion I am SO over them.  I almost fell asleep while driving to a job fair with my wife's brother in law listening to the "Wish You Were Here" album.  The synthesizer parts on a lot of that stuff sound like bad Styx or Emerson, Lake and Palmer records and have not aged well.  No offense to fans of any of those bands.

More (preparing to duck):

Boston
Aerosmith (cut-rate Stones)
Kansas
ELO
ELP
Styx
Foreigner
REO
Foghat
The Allman Brothers Band post-Duane
Jethro Tull as an album band -  they are better in compilations: lots of filler on every album and I say this as a flute player
The Doobie Brothers - any incarnation

...prepares to catch first plane out of the country...... ;D


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Perplexio on July 15, 2010, 09:11:01 pm
Styx
Foreigner
REO
Foghat
The Allman Brothers Band post-Duane


What about?:

Nazareth
Dokken
Blue Oyster Cult
Focus (other than their novelty hit Hocus Pocus and a few Jan Akkerman guitar solos I find them rather forgettable-- Akkerman solo is much more enjoyable).


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Saxman on July 15, 2010, 09:23:15 pm
Styx
Foreigner
REO
Foghat
The Allman Brothers Band post-Duane


What about?:

Nazareth
Dokken
Blue Oyster Cult
Focus (other than their novelty hit Hocus Pocus and a few Jan Akkerman guitar solos I find them rather forgettable-- Akkerman solo is much more enjoyable).

Agreed except for BOC: I do like "Don't Fear The Reaper" and "Burnin' For You"....but that's about it.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: KATH on July 15, 2010, 09:35:51 pm
Hourman: sorry, dude, no offense meant.  That's one reason I've never worked out in rock cover bands - Zeppelin and Skynard inevitably come up and i don't want to play them.  I'm actually more of a jazz fusion/R&B guy.

The only Skynnyrd song I dig is What's That Smell?  I remember driving through Sandusky, OH on a hot summer night in 2001 and that song was playing on the radio.  There's a limestone quarry right near the main strip in Sandusky (US-250/Milan Rd.) and there's a stench of limestone that hangs in the air.  Some nights its worse than others.  One of my friends a few years before had dubbed it "the Sandusky Stank."  But there was something oh so appropriate about driving through Sandusky with the windows down on a hot summer night with What's that Smell? blasting on my car stereo and the foul stench from the limestone quarry hanging in the hair like a stinky wet blanket.

Eww...I remember that smell.   LOL.  Well...it was LEAPS AND BOUNDS over the smell from JUNGLE LARRY'S JUNGLE ADVENTURE!  Speaking of stinky wet blankets...of lion mane and tiger ****.  heh. 


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Hourman on July 16, 2010, 09:03:37 am
Boston
Aerosmith (cut-rate Stones)
Kansas
ELO
ELP
Styx
Foreigner
REO
Foghat
The Allman Brothers Band post-Duane
Jethro Tull as an album band -  they are better in compilations: lots of filler on every album and I say this as a flute player
The Doobie Brothers - any incarnation

Boston: love the first two albums... but I know classic rock radio has done a good job of killing them. However, I have started to hear "More Than A Feeling" on the light rock stations.
ELO: I can see why. Jeff Lynn does a good job of making all of his music sound the same. I still enjoy some ELO songs (Turn To Stone, Sweet Talking Woman) but have had my fill of Evil Woman, Mr. Blue Sky...
Aerosmith: Totally agree. I can't stand them. Will listen to "Sweet Emotion" and "Dream On" if the mood strikes me, but the rest of it....
Kansas: "Dust In the Wind" and that's it.
ELP: love the musicians, but not a big fan of their work. Carl Palmer is a personal favorite via his stuff with Asia
Styx: Love Dennis DeYoung's vocals.. not a fan of "Mr. Roboto" or Kilroy Was Here album
Foreigner: Love 'em. Corportate rock, but I don't care.
REO Speedwagon: Unfortunately, they are best known for "Keep On Lovin' You", but my favorite song is "Time For Me To Fly"
Foghat: Other than, "Slow Ride" is there any more?
Jethro Tull: Totally agree.
Doobie Bros: Sorry, love them too... both incarnations.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Perplexio on July 16, 2010, 09:31:25 am
Boston
Aerosmith (cut-rate Stones)
Kansas
ELO
ELP
Styx
Foreigner
REO
Foghat
The Allman Brothers Band post-Duane
Jethro Tull as an album band -  they are better in compilations: lots of filler on every album and I say this as a flute player
The Doobie Brothers - any incarnation

Boston - Love their first 2 and 4th albums (I love Walk On despite the absence of Brad Delp).  I find Third Stage to be rather bland in comparison and Corporate America only has 1 song I like the rest of the album doesn't do anything for me.
Aerosmith - Their first two albums are enjoyable but after that they really don't/didn't do much for me.  I did enjoy their music videos in the early 90s but that had far more to do with Alicia Silverstone than it did the music.
Kansas - I dig the Leftoverture and Point of Know Return albums and despite thoroughly enjoying the vocals of Elefante on Drastic Measures and Vinyl Confessions I'm not generally a fan of those albums.  The quality of the material was substantially lacking.
ELO - I enjoy much of their material but I'm happy with just the 2CD Strange Magic.  The only non-compilation albums of theirs that I enjoy are Time (because of the sci-fi concept) and Zoom (because of the Harrison and Starr contributions)
ELP - I dig Brain Salad Surgery.  I actually think that album has aged somewhat well.  Although, I'll concede Saxman's point on the rest of their material not aging well.  I prefer Greg Lake's work on the first 2 King Crimson albums and Palmer's work with Asia over ELP.
Styx - Used to listen to them incessantly and I still enjoy their 70s material.  They jumped the shark with Kilroy Was Here which I enjoyed initially but I don't believe it's aged as well as their other material.
Foreigner - I had a brief Foreigner phase.  It passed.  The only album of theirs I own is Double Vision.  I really feel that doctors should use their music for advertising-- Cold As Ice, Hot Blooded, and Double Vision would all work well.
REO - Love their 70s material.  Used to enjoy their 80s material as well but over the years I've grown bored of it.  Their debut album with Terry Luttrell (who later went on to sing lead for Starcastle) instead of Kevin Cronin is a favorite of mine.
Foghat - I concur with Hourman, they were a bit of a one-trick pony... did they have any other hits besides Slow Ride.
Allman Brothers (post Duane) - I agree with Saxman.
Jethro Tull - I agree with both Saxman and Hourman
The Doobie Brothers - I dig the Tom Johnston era stuff.  I'm not quite as keen on the Michael McDonald era.  It's a little too polished for my tastes.  The Doobies aren't supposed to sound that polished!  That's part of their appeal.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Saxman on July 18, 2010, 08:07:50 pm
Doobies; Michael McDonald  - he sounds constipated on the Motown/Soul tribute albums.  He is always over the top anyway.  Tom Johnston can't sing on key.  But that's me.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Charlie on July 19, 2010, 07:56:03 am
I've always been split on The Doobies too.  I've always liked the Tom Johnston version, despised the MM version.  MM is such a terrible singer.  I should have put him on my original list.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: CelticGal on July 19, 2010, 04:07:46 pm
I've always been split on The Doobies too.  I've always liked the Tom Johnston version, despised the MM version.  MM is such a terrible singer.  I should have put him on my original list.

Another potential thread topic: Polarizing Voices. I love MM's voice, but a lot of people don't. I also love Rod Stewart's voice but again, it really grates on some people.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Hourman on July 19, 2010, 04:14:51 pm
I've always been split on The Doobies too.  I've always liked the Tom Johnston version, despised the MM version.  MM is such a terrible singer.  I should have put him on my original list.

Another potential thread topic: Polarizing Voices. I love MM's voice, but a lot of people don't. I also love Rod Stewart's voice but again, it really grates on some people.


Ooooh... Have I got a list of those. :)


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Saxman on July 20, 2010, 02:35:26 pm
Interesting - the Mrs. and I (and the kids) are big Steely Dan fans, but a lot of people HATE Donald Fagen's voice.  It seems many also hate Water Becker's voice even more (the guitar/bass playing half of SD).  In all honesty, Becker's vocals sound a LOT like Chicago's Terry Kath and he's an excellent, underrated lead guitarist with substantial jazz/blues chops.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Hourman on July 20, 2010, 02:55:33 pm
As one who listens but is not a **** fan of Steely Dan, which of the following songs are sung by whom:

Reelin' In The Years
FM
Hey Nineteen
Peg
My Old School
Ricky, Don't Lose That Number


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Charlie on July 20, 2010, 03:38:56 pm
As one who listens but is not a **** fan of Steely Dan, which of the following songs are sung by whom:

Reelin' In The Years
FM
Hey Nineteen
Peg
My Old School
Ricky, Don't Lose That Number

All are Donald Fagan who sang 99% of the leads.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Saxman on July 20, 2010, 05:42:57 pm
Supposedly Fagen sang "Do It Again" with David Palmer, another lead vocalist on the first album, "Can't Buy A Thrill."  Palmer sang "Dirty Work" and "Brooklyn" by himself.  He sang "Only A Fool Would Say That" with Fagen and "Turn That Heartbeat Over Again" with Fagen and Becker, who sings his lines in a weird falsetto, but harmonizes nicely at times with Fagen and Palmer.  No one could get the feel they were looking for on "Midnight Cruiser," so drummer Jim Hodder sang that one.  Obviously, SD was more of a traditional band at that point.

By the time of the second album, "Countdown to Ecstasy," Fagen sang all the lead vocals and Palmer contributed only a few backing vocals, but he was gone before the album was released.  From that point on, Fagen sang all lead vocals until Becker's solo track, "Book of Liars" on SD's "Alive in America," even though Fagen has confessed to disliking his own singing voice.  Becker sings this track and his other Dan lead vocal "Slang Of Ages" from the great but overlooked "Everything Must Go" (2003) in a Terry Kathish baritone, which I really enjoy.

Becker was supposed to sing about half of the tunes on SD's "Two Against Nature" comeback album (2000), but for whatever reason, the to-be-Becker vocal songs were kicked up a few steps and Fagen did the leads.  When I saw SD in 1993, they performed a few tunes that wound up on TAN with Becker singing lead.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Poem58 on July 28, 2010, 01:27:04 pm
While there are plenty, I couldn't reach for the station knob fast enough when Dave Matthews started playing, whatever song it was that sounded like a whino band " Whonk, whonkwonk-Whonk, WhonkWhonk-wonk"..made my blood curdle. If I couldn't get to the next station fast enough I'd be forced to hear this babling drunk/high Bob Dylan wanna be warble out incoherent jabber...

Sorry, I just really couldn't stand them. Kinda like Blues Traveler, but that may have been more because they were played every 5 minutes and I just didn't hear what was so good. "Why You wanna give me the runaround?" Cause your a big fat warbling whino. I must have not been the only one not to get it, never heard from em again...that was 16 years ago...lol

Sorry, I don't hate many bands. I may not be a fan but they had to incessantly push their one song over and over for me to get to hate mode. Like the Wallflowers "One Headlight" sorry, but both must have gone out, haven't seen you in a long time either!

Sometimes I see some acts like these and I think..."One Hit Wonder" but more in the lines of "I WONDER how they got anyone to think even ONE of their songs was good enough to be a HIT"

Again, that's the amazing and magical thing about music, to me what I have said makes 100% sense and needs no justification, but likely someone here will think I am crazy. And to me, that's cool.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Hourman on July 28, 2010, 02:08:36 pm
I despise Morrissey and his depressing music.

I don't particularly care for The Cure either.

Both were extremely popular with girls I knew during my high school/college years.


Title: Re: Artists I hate that everyone else seems to love
Post by: Saxman on July 29, 2010, 06:49:29 am
Dave Matthews: love the jam band concept, but jeez, I agree, while the guy has a decent voice when he sings normally, he almost always (because he's a barely adequate guitarist) makes his schtick the bending of most sung notes weird, oversung and often off-key.  Then there are the live albums where every song is 20 minutes long and the first ten minutes are a vamp played over and over with no soloing.  Why is that supposed to be great?  Is it better if you are totally stoned?  I know he's a huge pothead as are most of his fans, but other musicians have been potheads and produced decent music.  Not so in his case: I think it's rotted his brain.